Return-Path: Received: from mail.o2.co.uk (82.132.130.219) by mail.o2.co.uk (7.3.140) id 4A9451C400869925 for largeassociates@o2.co.uk; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:10:16 +0000 Received: from southampton.gov.uk (194.165.29.12) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.0.013.3) id 4A4B4C712F7836D8 for largeassociates@o2.co.uk; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:10:16 +0000 Received: from ([194.165.29.1]) by mailshield.southampton.gov.uk with ESMTP id 5203020.65888096; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:10:01 0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA69DA.62F81C8B" Subject: RE: Information from public meeting Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:10:01 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <491B9DED7C2842159B2873721E8590EA@David> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Information from public meeting Thread-Index: AcpobH9hUtFxXhXcS3uEbeFisFoL5gBXzhOw References: <32D7CDA957904F9D86C3854785B80132@David> <491B9DED7C2842159B2873721E8590EA@David> From: "Wyeth, Graham" To: "David Hoadley" Cc: "Peter Burt" , "Nina Lambert" , "Mary Timimi" , "Juliet McBride" , "John Vetterlein" , "Di McDonald" , "David Chillingworth" , "John H Large" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA69DA.62F81C8B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear David, =20 You miss the point of which SCANS (Di) have been aware for a number of years. You will note that all correspondence including minutes and notes of meetings and FOI responses do not include identification and communication addresses of MOD linked staff. This was at their request and coming from a security background I fully understand why. Should they choose to do so that it is matter for them. I do not wish to appear awkward in any way and I am more than happy to pass information on or as I said the name to which you referred can be linked to MOD correspondence which SCANS have already initiated. You asked for a contact email address. I believe that would be a breach of the purpose for which that information has been supplied to me. =20 =20 We have an understanding within and across SCC and emergency services whereby, as you will note from the aforementioned documents supplied, the converse applies. =20 That said, for the purpose of resolving the matter and with the consent of MOD on this occasion it is requested that you correspond direct with Commander Dabell, Naval Command HQ, Whale Island Portsmouth. =20 Regards,=20 =20 Graham Wyeth =20 Emergency Planning & Business Continuity Manager Southampton City Council Tel: 023 8083 2089 Mobile:07768 032816 Fax: 023 8083 2043=20 =20 =20 Graham Wyeth =20 Emergency Planning & Business Continuity Manager Southampton City Council=20 Tel: 023 8083 2089 Mobile:07768 032816 Fax: 023 8083 2043=20 =20 http://www.southampton.gov.uk/people/keepingyousafe =20 =20 This email is confidential but may have to be disclosed under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, the Data Protection Act 1998 or the Environmental Information Regulations 2004. If you are not the person or organisation it was meant for, apologies, please ignore it, delete it and notify us. SCC does not make legally binding agreements or accept formal notices/proceedings by email. E-mails may be monitored. ________________________________ From: David Hoadley [mailto:dhoadley@phonecoop.coop]=20 Sent: 18 November 2009 16:30 To: Wyeth, Graham Cc: Peter Burt; Nina Lambert; Mary Timimi; Juliet McBride; John Vetterlein; Di McDonald; David Chillingworth; John H Large Subject: Re: Information from public meeting =20 Dear Graham With respect your answer does not make sense. The RN Commander and his colleague introduced themselves by name to everyone at the beginning, and introduced themselves by name to some members of SCANS informally after the meeting. The meeting on 4 November was a public meeting, not a private one. The Echo reporter could have quoted his name in a Echo report of the meeting. The Commander specifically promised to obtain information for John Large and you are making it more difficult for us to follow up this promise. I request that you ask the Commander to give his name to me, through you if need be. Regards David Hoadley Chair, SCANS ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Wyeth, Graham =20 To: David Hoadley =20 Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:04 PM Subject: RE: Information from public meeting =20 Dear David, =20 As you will see from our previous correspondence and meeting minutes provided to you, we do not release identification or contact details for 'classified' service personnel. However, I am prepared to acknowledge receipt of and forward such correspondence. Alternatively you may wish to route direct via the MOD which will then tie up with your other enquiries and those of John Large. =20 I confirm that the notes of the meeting will be available to you in due course. =20 Regards, =20 Graham Wyeth =20 Emergency Planning & Business Continuity Manager Southampton City Council=20 Tel: 023 8083 2089 Mobile:07768 032816 Fax: 023 8083 2043=20 =20 http://www.southampton.gov.uk/people/keepingyousafe =20 =20 This email is confidential but may have to be disclosed under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, the Data Protection Act 1998 or the Environmental Information Regulations 2004. If you are not the person or organisation it was meant for, apologies, please ignore it, delete it and notify us. SCC does not make legally binding agreements or accept formal notices/proceedings by email. E-mails may be monitored. =09 ________________________________ From: David Hoadley [mailto:dhoadley@phonecoop.coop]=20 Sent: 17 November 2009 14:30 To: Wyeth, Graham Subject: Information from public meeting =20 Graham Wyeth Emergency Planning & Continuity Manager =20 Dear Graham We wish to contact the Navy Commander who was present at the public meeting on Sotonsafe as he offered to provide information to John Large. His name sounded like Guy Debell. I would be grateful if you could provide me with his full name and email address. Secondly, I would be grateful if you could send me the minutes of the meeting when they are available. Regards David Hoadley Chair, SCANS ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA69DA.62F81C8B Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear = David,

 

You miss the point of which SCANS = (Di) have been aware for a number of years. You will note that all = correspondence including minutes and notes of meetings and FOI responses do not include identification and communication addresses of MOD linked staff.  = This was at their request and coming from a security background I fully = understand why.  Should they choose to do so that it is matter for them.  I do not = wish to appear awkward in any way and I am more than happy to pass information = on or as I said the name to which you referred can be linked to MOD = correspondence which SCANS have already initiated.  You asked for a contact email address.  I believe that would be a breach of the purpose for which = that information has been supplied to me. 

 

We have an understanding within and = across SCC and emergency services whereby, as you will note from the = aforementioned documents supplied, the converse applies.

 

That said, for the purpose of = resolving the matter and with the consent of MOD on this occasion it is requested = that you correspond direct with Commander Dabell, Naval Command HQ, Whale = Island Portsmouth.

 

Regards, =

 

Graham Wyeth 
Emergency Planning & Business Continuity Manager
Southampton City Council
Tel: 023 8083 2089         = Mobile:07768 = 032816              Fax: = 023 8083 2043 

 

 

Graham Wyeth 
Emergency Planning & Business Continuity Manager
Southampton City Council =
Tel: 023 8083 2089         = Mobile:07768 = 032816              Fax: = 023 8083 2043 

 

http://www.= southampton.gov.uk/people/keepingyousafe

 

=

 

=

This email is confidential but may have to be disclosed = under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, the Data Protection Act 1998 or the Environmental Information Regulations 2004. If you are not the person or organisation it was meant for, apologies, please ignore it, delete it = and notify us.  SCC does not make legally binding agreements or accept = formal notices/proceedings by email. E-mails may be = monitored.

=

From: David Hoadley [mailto:dhoadley@phonecoop.coop]
Sent: 18 November 2009 = 16:30
To: Wyeth, Graham
Cc: Peter Burt; Nina = Lambert; Mary Timimi; Juliet McBride; John Vetterlein; Di McDonald; David = Chillingworth; John H Large
Subject: Re: Information = from public meeting

 

Dear Graham

With respect your answer does not make sense. The RN Commander and his colleague introduced themselves by name to = everyone at the beginning, and introduced themselves by name to some members of = SCANS informally after the meeting. The meeting on 4 November was a public = meeting, not a private one. The Echo reporter could have quoted his name in = a Echo report of the meeting. The Commander specifically promised to obtain = information for John Large and you are making it more difficult for us to follow up = this promise. I request that you ask the Commander to give his name to = me, through you if need be.

Regards

David Hoadley

Chair, SCANS

----- Original Message ----- =

From: Wyeth, Graham =

Sent: = Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:04 PM

Subject: RE: = Information from public meeting

 

Dear = David,

 

As you will see from our previous correspondence and meeting minutes provided to you, we do not release identification or contact details for ‘classified’ service personnel.  However, I am prepared to acknowledge receipt of and = forward such correspondence.  Alternatively you may wish to route direct = via the MOD which will then tie up with your other enquiries and those of John = Large.

 

I confirm that the notes of the = meeting will be available to you in due course.

 

Regards,

 

Graham Wyeth 
Emergency Planning & Business Continuity Manager
Southampton City Council =
Tel: 023 8083 2089         = Mobile:07768 = 032816              Fax: = 023 8083 2043 

 

http://www.= southampton.gov.uk/people/keepingyousafe

 

=

 

=

This email is confidential but may have to be disclosed = under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, the Data Protection Act 1998 or the = Environmental Information Regulations 2004. If you are not the person or organisation = it was meant for, apologies, please ignore it, delete it and notify us.  = SCC does not make legally binding agreements or accept formal notices/proceedings = by email. E-mails may be monitored.

=

From: David Hoadley [mailto:dhoadley@phonecoop.coop]
Sent: 17 November 2009 = 14:30
To: Wyeth, Graham
Subject: Information from = public meeting

 

Graham Wyeth

Emergency Planning & Continuity = Manager

 

Dear Graham

We wish to contact the Navy Commander who was present = at the public meeting on Sotonsafe as he offered to provide information to John = Large. His name sounded like Guy Debell. I would be grateful if you could = provide me with his full name and email address.

Secondly, I would be grateful if you could send me = the minutes of the meeting when they are = available.

Regards

David Hoadley

Chair, SCANS

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